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Excellent adhesion can be achieved by properly cleaning the board before applying a topcoat of paint to PVC trim. Refer to painting guidelines in the Versatex contractor handbook for more information on painting PVC trim. A Note from the Publisher :. In the future, look for more carefully-screened articles from manufacturers. Lacquers are not recommended with PVC trim because lacquers are a more brittle coating, and will not flex with any movement in the PVC trim.

Paint on PVC trim will last three to five times longer than paints on wood or wood composites due to the absence of moisture in the substrate. Due to its excellent adhesion properties, it is an ideal coating for Cellular PVC. Only light-to-medium colored paints—with a light reflective value of 55 units or greater—should be applied to PVC trim.

For example, using paint with an LRV below 55 units will void our product warranty. LRV is measured based on color and its ability to absorb heat. We have had cases where contractors believed that the paint they used was a light beige, only to find out it had an LRV in the 20s or 30s. That depends on the weather conditions. For the paint to cure, the moisture must evaporate through the surface of the coating that has skimmed over from drying.

What is the best glue for joining two pieces of PVC trim? What is the best glue for bonding PVC trim to wood? How about metal? Be sure the PVC pipe glue has sufficient working time to allow you to apply the glue and push the boards together before it cures. If you are looking for more of a structural bond at shiplap or scarf joints, miter cuts window surround , or for gluing sheets of PVC trim, we recommend PVC TrimWelder. Slow and Fast Cure for field joints and small glue-ups, and Laminating Grade for sheet glue-ups.

Remember to apply any adhesive to only one bonding surface, thus allowing the adhesive to penetrate into the cells on the other trim piece. What is the best fastening system for PVC trim that also hides the fastener head?

It combines the advantages of using screws strong connection with the PVC trim tapered plug that fits into the hole created by the screw, thus eliminating the need for fillers or sealants to fill the nail holes. Simpson Strong-Tie makes an 8d nail with a 7d head in a gauge thickness, available loose or collated, allowing it to be gun-nailed.

Screws are better for limiting the thermal movement of the trim. Allow PVC trim to acclimate to outside temperatures before installing.

Bond PVC trim joints to prevent separation. Be sure to allow adequate expansion and contraction space at the end of long runs. If possible, decrease the on-center spacing between fasteners to 12 in.

Shiplap joints are superior to scarf cut joints, especially on long runs. Trowel the masonry with a sealant or adhesive to provide a level surface to accept the PVC trimboard. Then secure the trim to the masonry with Tapcon masonry fasteners.

Also, how do I clean PVC trimboards? Handle PVC trim as you would a piece of premium lumber. Be careful not to damage the visible surface of the board. To seal cut edges or clean a cut edge that has gotten dirty, sand them with grit sand paper, and then wipe the edges with Acetone—this will help to re-seal the cells.

As with any new product, try the cleaner in an inconspicuous area before cleaning the trimboards on your project. As with adhesives, look for products that contain some type of solvent. Do not use silicone sealants , as they are not compatible with cellular PVC trim. Once in a while I will use paint thinner to get off small stubborn black marks. Any suggestions? The very best solution for filling nail holes is the Cortex screw and plug.

FastenMaster sells the screws and plugs as a system with a bit that countersinks the screw to just the right depth to accept the tapered Versatex PVC plug. Visit the FastenMaster website to find a dealer in your area. There are other companies that offer a stainless steel screw with a painted white head. A couple examples of these are Headcote and Simpson Strong Tie.

Also, check out Simpson Strong Ties, white painted Trifecta nail it comes in stainless. I would think if you dont have immediate access to the cortex you could use a small tapered plug cutter and use the screws countersunk you have on hand.

You are correct. Many contractors still make their own plugs but for those who would rather buy them there is Cortex. Hi John I live in Calgary Alberta. I talked to your rep out here last fall, who put me in touch with a dealer, they were for lack of a better word useless!!!

Getting Versatex products here is worse than pulling teeth! Ordering on line is a hard call due to quantities and expensive shipping, not to mention ordering enough with wastage or having too much, and a reorder or a return would be painful and expensive.

Do you have any input of what i can or need to do?! This is a very informative article. I used a plastic putty to fill my screw holes and then sanded flush, hoping that seals properly. I read with interest your admonition to not use silicone sealant on PVC trim.

It bonds better to the stucco. What sealant would you recommend for this type of joint? I always sand the surface to be glued with grit paper to give the adhesive something to grab onto. I have not glued anything to stucco, but with the rough texture, I have no doubt SF would be effective.

Just a word of caution. I would expect the same response from any cellular PVC trim producer. Cellular PVC should also be secured to the substrate with mechanical fasteners nails or screws. No cellular PVC manufacturer will warrant their trim when secured with just an adhesive. Henkel tested our cellular PVC trim with these two products before giving us approval in writing. Thanks John. Also appreciate the disclaimer at the beginning of the article stating who it was written by.

So can water penetrate the open cells? I just siliconed all the edges…. Cellular PVC is much like a honeycomb. If you examined it under a microscope it will look like an array of cells in a random geometric pattern. When you cut, rout, mould or mill cellular PVC, you break open a layer of these cells but you do not affect the integrity of the entire cell structure of the cellular PVC board or sheet.

This is why cellular PVC is basically impervious to moisture and has a moisture content value of less than 0. So to answer your question no water will not penetrate cellular PVC because the cells are not openned throughout the thickness just the surface cells that you cut are open.

As for the sealant you used, I would recommend you stay away from silicones in the future. Although some commerical silicone sealants will stick to cellular PVC when a primer is applied most over the counter silicones that you buy at your local lumber dealer will not. The best sealants for cellular PVC are polymer based sealants containing a solvent.

We like the Solar Seal for a few reasons it is as much an adhesive as a sealant, it stays flexible for decades and it carries a warranty that I believe is either 15 or 20 years. Check with the manufacturer on the length of their warranty and availability in your area. You can find them on the Internet. I have a job where I have to double up the thickness of the trim by using two 1x boards laid one over the other.

To minimize thermal expansion, should I cement them together or will that exacerbate the problem? Mark: Laminating two boards together is a very common practice and has no affect on the potential thermal expansion and contraction of the board. For circular saw blades some say to use a tooth count of about 40 to avoid heat build up while others say to use a tooth blade to ensure a clean cut. The answer is simple.

The fewer the teeth on the saw the better. We recommend a carbide tipped blade with 32 teeth. However, 40 teeth will be just fine.

The more teeth the greater the frictional heat build-up in the cut causing you to melt and potentially burn the cellular PVC. Hi I have a composite door about three years old, and the outside lamination is beginning to separate in three locations about two inches long each. Which adhesive would you recommend for repair the temperature range in Ireland is minus ten to 30 degrees centigrade. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The door is a Palladio door manufactured by Profile developments. John, what is wrong with using a silicone sealer to bond a long yet thin trim board with those fake wood grain paper finishes to a sheetrock wall? Silicone should hold tight — and— some day be removeable, without tearing into the wall as a glue will, and it likely will come off the wall in one piece, to allow use of the trim board again someday once the back side is cleaned up and flat again.

Silicone sealants or sealers are not compatible with cellular PVC and will not hold a board or sheet to a sheet rock wall. No matter what you use as a base sealant, you still need to mechanically fasten cellular PVC to the frame of the wall.

Yes you can definitely use cellular PVC trim and sheet indooors. I have seen cellular PVC used in foyers, hallways, mud rooms, bathrooms, laundry rooms, basements and garages. The only recommendation I have is check with your building code official to see if there is a maximum amount of cellular PVC you can use inside a home. Typically it is listed as square feet per room. I know you are selling this product but would it really kill your sales to just say that the outgassing is potentially s health hazard?

Jerry, At first I deleted your comment because it was disrespectful. But I changed my mind. In the future, please remember, unlike other areas of the internet and the political climate of this country, THISisCarpentry. Regards, Gary. Let me clear up any misconceptions you have concerning cellular PVC. Cellular PVC is created by introducing a foaming agent during the extrusion process.

When the cells are cut via a router, saw, drill, CNC, moulder, etc. It is not a controlled product under Canadian Regulations, it contains no hazardous ingredients, it does not contain any chemicals subject to CERCLA and SARA regulations, it contains no know toxic substances, and can be disposed of in an approved industrial landfill. We have conducted EPA air tests in our plant.

The results shows no levels of any hazard. Thus no special air circulation or filtering system is need in the plant where we cut, rout, and mould cellular PVC. In addition, there is no need for any air permitting in our plant or the surrounding area.

Once you locate a company download their MSDS. I have now used Ultima Caulking Sealant but when the hot sun beats down on it the caulking expands out of the crack. When it cools off it goes back to its original shape but the process occurs again when it heats up again. Should I be concerned over this?

As I read your e-mail below, my first question is why are you getting so much movement between two boards used as a drip cap above a window? What are the lengths of the boards and what type or nail or screw was used to install the PVC trimboards? Do you happen to know what the temperature was when the boards were installed? That information will allow me to determine why the boards are moving?

Now on to your questions. The reason is because it has a solvent base that chemically breaks down the PVC and fuses to the trim. The sealant is moving up and down as the PVC trimboards expand and contract. The reasons the other caulks fell out is most likely because they were not solvent based. The way you can tell a the difference between a tube of sealant that has solvent in it and one that does not is by the tube and plug.

If the tube and plug in the tube is plastic the caulking is not solvent based and will not bond to cellular PVC trim. In the future, to minimize movement between the two boards I would use a better nail 8d , or screw Cortex screw and plug system.

How I apply the caulk would depend on the time of year and the length of the run. If this was the case and with proper installation, I would have ship-lapped the ends of the boards and glued them together.

The install temperature was probably around 70F, the low reached F in Pittsburgh for a couple of weeks. What should I have used to fill in the screw holes in my pvc trim? The chalk my carpenter gave me turned yellowish even after I had it painted. If you plan on painting the trim, use any vinyl spackling. Are you sure the yellowing is from the caulk? My concern is the contractor used galvanized screws and the galvanizing has peeled off exposing the steel screw which is now coroding.

If the issue is truly the caulking yellowing, it must be a very poor performing sealant. It is both an adhesive and sealant with excellent long term flexibility, weatherability and paintability.

It also bonds exceptionally well to cellular PVC trim and comes in a wide array of colors. I have Versatex cellular PVC trim on the exterior of my cottage. This trim board would be very difficult to replace. What can be used to repair this gouge? A small ding or dent can be removed with a heat gun. It will activate the residual foaming agent in the cells of the product and cause it to raise much like a cake repairing these small dimples or dings in our trim.

Any filler you use is going to require you to paint the boards since no filler is an exact match to our trimboard or anyones trimboard for that matter. Here are some possible fillers. You can find any of the above products on Google. Good luck and thanks for using Versatex PVC trim. Thanks John for your fulsome answer.. I will certainly try this approach.

Sounds like the cellular PVC equivalent of using a steam iron to fix a gouge in wood. Not if you do it correctly.

Just wave the heat gun or commercial hair dryer over the spot you are trying to raise. You should notice results in less than one minute.

I will need to cut the board into a curve to match the tub likely using a jigsaw on slow speed. Questions: 1 What tpi tooth per inch jigsaw blade would your recommend for cutting the curve? Thanks in advance.

When you run jig saw blades with an increased number of teeth per inch you create a lot of frictional heat which tends to melt the board and cause a very rough cut. It can also lead to the trimboard fusing together behind the cut. The key to successful and smooth cuts is sharp router tools preferably carbide, the more flutes on the router bit the better the cut, securing the trim piece during routing to prevent surface chatter in the cut and good dust extraction to prevent heat build up at the router bit which can lead to a pulling and a yellowing of the core.

The urethane chemistry is very compatible with PVC. Keep in mind urethane sealants are activated by moisture. If you like Vulkem stick with it. However, both of them are solvent based and may not be practical for indoor applications like yours. Another one to consider is the new Quad Max by OSI with is not solvent based and works as well as if not better than polyurethanes. Yes Versatex can be bent to accommodate a circular patio. Can I assume you are bending it the easy way along its length?

It is not only used to trim a curved paver or brick patio, it is also used as a concrete form for curved sidewalks and patios. Typically you can curve it along the length or what we call the easy way without heating the board. Are you planning to leave it as is or paint it? Wood fillers are not recommended. Also checkout Extreme Adhesives website.

You can buy these on line at their website or call them to find a local dealer in your area. Great information thank you. I am preparing to trim a new shed with Veranda from HD. My plan calls for 1x4x8s for the corners. I have read articles telling me the best approach for creating the corners is to rip a 45 degree angle lengthwise on both trim boards and glue them together, using tape to hold together the two pieces until the cement hardens.

Hopefully that was clear. Can you suggest the best approach in your experience for putting together 2 boards to make a corner trim? One way to solve this problem is to hit those edges with some or even better grit sand paper. It will make the rough edges smooth like the surface of the boards.

They will use a Velcro strap to hold the corner together while the glue dries. Obviously, the second method is more time consuming and if not done correctly it could mean a poor looking corner that is not acceptable to your customer. However, for those who have mastered the second fabrication option the finished corner looks great. Good luck! I too made my corners by grooving with a router.

I used pvc cement and a few spots of that instant glue with the spray activator. It worked like a charm. I made a simple column the same way for three of the corners. On that joint i used the instant stuff on the whole thing. Im too impatient to wait for curing. It was awesome. This made it look very similar to the other corners. Also the seam was off to one side where it isnt noticed like it would be if in the centre of the mitre. Corners were glued with pl premium to the substrate more pvc and cortex screwed sparingly.

I also glued all but corners with the instant cement. You want to be sure not to get any on the faces of your work. Painters tape or some cover isnt a bad idea. If you research and make some test pieces you can save yourself and your customers some big issues.

Just caught your title :. It turns out you have an Elite Partner Level Dealer not so far from me. Thanks for the professionalism. Regarding the filling of smaller nail holes say from a finish nail or trim screw , I use a white crayola crayon warmed to have it soft to push into the holes and then rubbing it clean with a towel or finger nail works just as well depending on the amount you apply.

I use Tanza and typically the wood grain side which tends to have a slight gloss which lend well to the crayon. Well hope this helps someone plagued with little black spots. Any concerns using biscuit joinery here? Your entire approach to the fabrication of your corners is spot on.

Good luck. Versatex pictures show the skirtboard butting up to a cornerboard vertical edge. I have not found pics of Versatex or other manufacturers water table corner details. Do you recommend butting the water table against the corner vertical edge? Hi John, I wish I had seen this information before I started my job. I have mahogany tongue and groove — stairs…. I used the pvc trim board for the kick plates. I got some hard wood stain on the pvc boards.

What can I use to clean it, as I would do not want to damage it. The stain is water clean up not as easy as it sounds. You can find this at any hardware store or lumber dealer location. If all else fails, sand it off using a grit sandpaper to start and stepping down to a and then a grit to remove the stain while also smoothing the sanded surface of the trimboard. John D. Love the result! We are installing trim around our windows with the brick mold that has the J-Channel attached.

How do you correctly miter the joints of the corners? Hi Sandy, Have you seen a reply yet about your J-channel brick mold? I just ordered some to redo my exterior door frame and am anxious to find out not only how the miters turned out but how you liked the results. Are you using it with vinyl siding? Is the J-channel too deep for vinyl or did it look ok? Are there any suppliers of white painted nails that can be used with a nail gun?

Although you might find a nail with a painted head, the problem is keeping the paint on the head when the nail is shot from a gun or pounded into the trimboard. Once the paint comes off you now have to look for a nail hole filler and I can tell you no nail hole filler is an exact color match to any PVC trimboard. Another option if your not willing to use screws and plugs is just a white headed trim screw.

It will be less expensive than the screw and plug but more than the nail. Based upon my experience in the field your carpenter was correct in choosing the screw and plug system. It is the best means of securing cellular PVC trim to the frame of a home, it gives you the best overall aesthetic appearance, and provides the greatest holding power. We have specific cases where this system survived hurricane Sandy without the trim pulling away from the home or becoming lose from the hurricanes negative wind pressure.

Plus you never have to worry about the screw holes or the color of the plugs since they are made from the same material as your trimboards. Good luck with your project.

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A Note from the Publisher :. In the future, look for more carefully-screened articles from manufacturers. Lacquers are not recommended with PVC trim because lacquers are a more brittle coating, and will not flex with any movement in the PVC trim.

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Visit the FastenMaster website to find a dealer in your area. There are other companies that offer a stainless steel screw with a painted white head. A couple examples of these are Headcote and Simpson Strong Tie. Also, check out Simpson Strong Ties, white painted Trifecta nail it comes in stainless. I would think if you dont have immediate access to the cortex you could use a small tapered plug prp and use the screws countersunk you have on hand.

You are correct. Many contractors still make their own plugs but for those who would rather buy them there is Cortex. Hi John I live in Calgary Alberta. I talked to your rep out here last fall, who put me in touch with a dealer, they were for lack of a better word useless!!! Getting Versatex products here is worse than pulling teeth! Ordering on line is a hard call due comment installer sketchup pro 2017 free quantities and expensive shipping, not to mention ordering enough with wastage or взято отсюда too much, and a reorder or a return would be painful and expensive.

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As for the sealant you used, I would recommend you stay away from silicones in the future. Ijstaller some commerical silicone sealants will stick to cellular PVC when a primer is applied most over the counter silicones that you buy at your local lumber dealer will not.

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You can find them installef the Internet. I have installef job where I have to double up the thickness of the trim by using two 1x boards laid one over the other. To minimize thermal expansion, should I cement them together or will that exacerbate the problem? Mark: Laminating two boards together is a very common practice and has no affect on the potential thermal expansion and contraction of the board. For circular ocmment blades some say to use a tooth count of about 40 to avoid heat build up while others say to use a tooth blade to ensure a clean cut.

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John, what is wrong with using a silicone comment installer sketchup pro 2017 free fomment bond a long yet thin trim board with those fake wood grain paper finishes to a sheetrock wall? Silicone should hold tight — and— some day be removeable, iinstaller tearing into the wall as a glue will, sektchup it likely will come off the wall in one piece, to allow use of the trim board again someday once the back side is cleaned up and flat again.

Silicone sealants or sealers are not compatible with cellular PVC and will not hold a board or sheet to a sheet rock wall. No matter what you use as a base sealant, you still need to mechanically fasten cellular PVC to the frame of the wall.

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